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"fox & friends" weekend starting with this: president biden is looking to make big bucks at a ritzy west coast campaign fundraiser while from the freezing cold courthouse to the sunny new jersey shore, donald trump is rallying in wildwood today. pete: that's right. and ranchers, border patrol agents and a mom who lost two of her children to the fentanyl crisis plead for help weed at the house judiciary committee field hearing in arizona on the southwest border. we talked to one of them. >> the national security issue. we don't need to conflate immigration and border security. let's get the border security piece right. will: plus, northern lights getting further south. why you might be able to see them as far south as alabama this weekend with. the final hour of "fox & friends" weekend start it is right now. ♪ i'm unstoppable. ♪ i'm invincible.

♪ pete: i want to say pittsburgh with, but it's not. i'm going to the say cincinnati. is in that the reds? ballpark right there, great american -- will: i like cincinnati. i'm going to go -- further west, i'm going to go st. louis. pete: oh, wow, he's cleaning up today. he's cleaning up today. rachel: i was actually going to say st. louis. will: were you? rachel: i was. will: i think i do pittsburgh every fourth guess. pete: pittsburgh's got the yellow bridges. will: yeah. pete: but i feel like we're honing in pretty nicely -- will: on what? pete: general geographic areas. cincinnati's not too far from st. louis -- that was a ballpark game, which i like as well. ballparks, arenas. there's endless iterations of this game which i'm amused by, and will is not. rachel: it's going to be an

outdoor rally -- pete: donald trump is9 hitting the trail as best he can considering what he's up against all week long. we see the coverage of the sham trial going on in new york city. what is the main effort of that trial at this moment? prevent donald trump from being on the campaign trail. it's election interference in realtime laid bare before us. but the president's doing the best he can to get out in between. and yesterday when he came out the talk to the media, he shared what he'll be doing today in new jersey. listen. >> saturday we have a tremendous rally, and i hope you're all going to be there. it's in wildwood, new jersey. there's going to be a big crowd, and we're going to be saying a lot. we'll be able to campaign on saturday. will: be able to actually campaign. [laughter] the other thing that is done by -- pete: the candidate. will: -- running for president. it will be, i imagine, a huge turnout in wildwood, new jersey. rachel: and i -- will: i wanted to pause, a because you had something -- pete: no, no, just confirming

what i said e a couple of hours ago, the reason it's significant is you'll draw a lot of crowd from eastern p.a -- will: is that what you're looking at in. pete: it's the southern tip of new jersey, but it would be considered -- philadelphia's close -- rachel: yeah. philadelphia is close by. this is important for the president because, as you said, he's tied up in a dirty courtroom down the street from here, and he doesn't get to campaign in other parts of the states, especially some of those battleground states, because he's stuck here. here he can go to new jersey. i also think it's really good for his mental state. i think, you know, look, he's a tough i guy. we've all seen him do all this and you are survive what seems like insurmountable obstacles in front of him, but it's got to wear on you. and this has all been an exercise in humiliation. he's able to go out and realize that what the media says, what these manhattan, you know, judges and prosecutors are doing, that the people out there actually love him. and i think that's going to be

important for hem mentally. will: meanwhile, joe biden will be on the west coast. he's going to campaign fundraisers, but he's going to be met, you would assume, with some resistance, if not lack of enthusiasm. israeli-american democrat mega-donor who threw an event for joe biden, right, very recently -- pete: yes, in february. will: he's the billionaire behind the power rangers, he said this in an e-mail to the white house. he said bad, bad, bad decision, referencing pausing funding or standing in the way of funding to israel which the white house decided to do.. he says it sends a terrible message to our allies in the region and beyond. finish. pete: you know, while you were reading that, i was thinking or -- i'm trying to think of an issue for donald trump where he's kind of at odds with himself or at odds with the base of his party right now, and it's difficult to conceive of one at least at a big level. if joe biden has multiple issues

where he's at odds with the base of his party and/or common sense. or at least popular sentiment. so you've gots israel and palestine where you've got mega-donors who can't stand the fact he's caving to the radicals and the radicals who can't stand the fact that he's traditionally been pro-israel. he can't satisfy either. how about the border? everyone sees it's a problem, yet they've loud it to be or porous for three and a half years, and now he's trying to about face on it a little bit. those are two massive issues where you can't reconcile who the real joe biden is. nobody knows. that's not going to improve between now and election day. even if you have donald trump in a courtroom, which you do, eventually, those chickens come home to roost x. we've talked about the convention. they're make it virtual because they -- they're trying to hide him because, a, he's not capable and, b, where does he stand? nobody knows. rachel: there's another issue that's causing hem a lot of trouble and that's not going to

improve before the election, and that's the economy. frankly, a lot of young people are really angry about this. they're not able to launch their lives. they're seeing these private equity firms buying up properties because, up you know, the globalists want us in a renting economy. you'll own nothing. you'll be happy. and they can't buy, you know, because of the interest rates and because of what the private equity firms are doing, they can't buy a home. they're seeing where their parents are, and they're look at where they're at and going how am i going to get to there because the economy and inflation and opportunity is so bad right now. we've will you bring up the economy, israel, pete, you mentioned the border. coming up in just a few moments we'll have sean hannity talk with pete about what's going on at the border in just a few minutes here, at a 9:20 a.m. eastern time. on that note of the border, the congress, the judiciary committee held a field hearing in arizona to talk about the impact of the border or policies on, for example, or ranchers in

that area. chris clem is a retiered border patrol -- retired border patrol chief. this is what he had to say about what's going on at the border and how it was discussed at this field hearing for the judiciary committee. >> hearings, they codify and they memorialize what the people are wanting to hear and talk about. so many people on the other side will call this some kind of political stunt, and i would say the political stunt is not addressing it, not coming down here and seeing the impact. so i'm hopeful that this will send a clear message to both sides of the aisle that this is a national security everybody shoe, that this is a public safety issue, that this is a border security issue and that we don't need to conflate immigration and border security. let's get the border or security piece right, let's have a stand-alone bill. let's secure the border so we can secure america temperature border security is national security, and we need to get on that first. and that's what i'm hoping gets accomplished out of a field hearing like this.

rachel: do you guys remember the rancher i spoke with in arizona that captured over 3,000 illegals, some of them in military uniforms trouncing through his property and couldn't get the border patrol to come because they were tied up processing people? he was also at that hearing. they also had a mom whose child had died of fentanyl if poisoning. so i spoke to that gentleman, that retired border patrol guy that you just saw right now in that clip, and that former officer said that he was just really glad someone came down. again, nothing's going to come of this until, perhaps, we get new leadership. but i did at the end of the interview ask him, you know, you've been experiencing this, why do you think this is happening. he thinks it's about a future elections. e the hi -- he thinks it's about getting more through the census, getting more apportioned seats for democrats. pete: this is an issue they want us to take our eye off the ball on. rachel: yes. pete: hard. and that's why a field hearing's important. they should keep doing field hearings down there with every

committee they can, highlighting the travesty, the sin, the betrayal that is our southern border -- rachel: amen. pete: joe biden and the democrats don't want to talk about it. they're i cutting deals with the mexicans to slow the flow so it's not as much of a campaign issue. and cory millses is talking about impeaching joe biden for the israeli aid. fine. if it does look a lot like what happened with ukraine, going to, but they should have impeached joe biden and alejandro mayorkas on the border a long time agent -- ago. don't lose focus. the voters should be thinking of that when they go in the ballot box, so i applause these typeses of field hearings. i think they make sense. rachel: i do too. will: the new york mayor experiencing firsthand what happens when you have a city flooded with illegal immigrants. he went to rome, italy, and learned a little bit about the way that they handle immigration, migrants, illegal immigrants in that country.

listen. >> what really jumped off at me in my conversation with the mayor is how quick they are able to work. one of the requirements is, is that you learn basic -- the language of the country, beak eyal a january. -- italian. and you are allowed to work within a shutter period of time, anywhere from two months you're able the really be a part of the society. will: we were just talking about the big takeaway, and mine was the same as yours rachel, he's talking about -- to some extent, assimilation as a requirement to staying. you don't -- pete: i don't. i think he's saying let's speed pup every way we can let 'em work. give them legal status as fast as a we can. i don't think he's saying we're going to do english as the official -- he's not taking that stance. by the way, i'm sure it's some boondoggle trip. i'm the mayor of new york going to rome. rachel: i need to check things out. he needs to to go to rome to check out theirs -- by the way,

he's also meeting with the pope because pope francis is a big proponent of illegal emigration -- pete: that's right. that's all part of it. rachel: you guys mentioned i i was gone for two weeks. i went to rome with my family, and i did go to the vatican. and i noted there was a big, huge wall around the vatican -- pete: a bug, beautiful wall. so a. rachel: so a lot of talk about welcoming these illegal immigrants into europe. by the way, it's a very contentious -- pete: i bet they had a lot of space around that wall where the catholic church could allow a lot of illegals to camp finish. rachel: i guarantee i saw no camping inside of the vatican. will: europe, not just italy -- rachel: absolutely. huge issue for europe, and europe sees it as a net positive because their birthrate is especially collapsing, and those who are coming illegally into europe, they're having a lot more babies. pete: i was recently in london for a day and a half fill becoming for a documentary we're

doing about -- will: thought about you. pete: -- migrants, illegals, islamists arriving on the shores of europe -- will: i thought about you this week, another quick, short plug, but i had carl benjamin, who is a conservative brit, on to talk about the deep cultural things that when you have this type of societal flow. you can check it out at will cain show.com. rachel: that's a great tongue, will. will: what's happening to them in england. deep, deep change and the hama laze it causes when you lose your sense of self -- rachel: we're experiencing it a little bit here. i think a lot of americans have been surprise at what's happening in terms of the israel-palestine conflict and how some of those ideas have been is, you know, influencing the university -- pete: more than we thought. rachel: more than we ever thought. all right. we're going to turn to deadline -- headlines. the family of a missouri teen who suffered major brain injuries in a school brawl

revealing a portion to of their daughter's skull was with removed during surgery to releave brain swelling. that's because caylee gains' head was smashed into the sidewalk several times during the march attack. her family saying, quote, there is still a long road ahead in caylee 's path to recovery. caylee spends around three days per week in physical and speech therapy, and she is still experiencing short-term memory loss after one month in the hospital. caylee is finally home with her family. this story, will and pete, did not get enough attention, and i guarantee if the situation was reversed, the victim and the aggressor, this would be a front page story for everyone. so tragic. u.s. dairy farmers will now get paid by the the federal government to test their dairy cows for bird flu. nearly $200 million is being put up to stop the virus and cover vet costs and also to compensate the farmers. 42 herds across 9 states have

been affected by the outbreak. oprah winfrey is dishing out apologies for what she says is her major role in diet culture. the former queen of daytime tv starting a 3-hour -- starred in a 3-hour youtube special this week for weight watchers, and she opened up about her role in the evolution of diet culture. listen. >> i have been a stead the fast participant in this diet culture through my platforms, through the magazine, through the talk show for 25 years, through online. i've been a major contributor e to it. rachel: hmm. big mea culpa. to oprah says also that her biggest regrets in her career are are related to pushing diet culture and how she set unrealistic standards during her battle with weight loss. you see her there with the famous red wagon and the 60 some pounds of fat that she lost on a liquid diet. will: we talked about this a

little bit earlier in the show. we talked about what's going on. first of all, it's weird to do that out of weight with watchers can -- pete: she's still got to cash the checks, will. will: i think the whole thing was all about fat shaming -- will: and you point out she's also now participating in the ozempic experiment -- rachel: she basically did an infomercial for it, and she's on it. she's been open about it. will: this is part of bodies positivity. this is part of woke culture -- pete: shaming, how dare you tell people there's an ideal view of what a woman should look like. you have to affirm if everybody whether they're 100 pounds or 400 pounds, and you have to tell them they're beautiful, and if you tell them they need to work out or do weight watchers, you're part of the problem. but she's basically, again, she made her career trying to say things about what she believed were good and positive, and now she's appeal poll eyeing for all of -- apologizing for all of it because the wokesters got her

and saying shame on you for wanting to be thin. that's horrible of you. rachel: don't forget, pete, she is a billionaire for a reason will be. i'm sure she's getting a kickback from ozempic, she's on the board of weight watchers. so the mea culpa comes -- pete: you get ozempic, you get ozempic. [laughter] biden facing heat on both sides of the aisle as a he threatens to withhold weapons from israel. the left thinks he isn't doing enough. will: sean hannity breaks down the back and forthcoming up. rachel: but first, brian kilmeade with a look at what's coming up tonight on "one nation. ". >> senator joe man children, why he's disa appointed with his party and his -- and johan hari, this guy on ozempic lost 47 pounds, wrote a book about why you should or perhaps shouldn't.

very intriguing, right? only on on "one nation "tonight at nine. be there. i'm wearing this. there are

pete: welcome back to "fox & friends" weekend. joe biden continues the face backlash from both sides of the aisle for his e recent handling or mishandling of the israel

hi-hamas war with over two dozen democrats writing, quote: public disputes with our critical ally only emboldens our mutual enanyones in-- enemies and makes a hostage agreement even harder to achieve. here to react on a saturday morning, mr. sean hannity. sean, how you doing? >> first of all, i watch every saturday morning, so i might if as well be on. [laughter] thank you for the invitation. it's great to be here. you know, i will tell you with, we're going to look back, and i'm going to tell you something, pete, this is a moment in history that is not a proud one for the u.s. we had a u.s. president literally surrender in the war on terrorism while simultaneously abandoning our allies as they fight for their very survival. you know, we played a tape on hannity i e this week, joe biden in 2019 saying we would never --

it would be preposterous to ever think of abandoning israel and withholding military aid, and he did that very thing this week. here's the danger, is the world is watching, pete. i mean, think about this. our allies are watching. what did they learn this week in you can't count on the u.s. do -- pete: yeah. >> think about this, joe biden said, well, we'll support you only with defensive weapons, but we won't support your victory in the war on terror. i'd like to know why is there any moral ambiguity? what part of what happened on october. th is he -- october 7th is he is and these lunatics on college campuses not understanding? what happened was the worst terror attack in their history based on israel 's population if we compared it to our population, it would be the equivalent of losing 40,000 americans in a single day and having 8,000 americans taken hostage and taken out of the u.s.

wow. and so israel is now in a fight for their very survival. their number one ally, so they thought, has now abandoned them. they're going to win the war regardless, but not only have our allies watching this probably in horror, but our enemies are emboldened. you know, joe biden is not strong enough to stand up to the radicals that now represent the majority of the democratic party. he's not strong enough to stand the up to them and say, sorry, this is about fighting radical islamic terrorism. israel has a right to self-defense, and their survival is hanging in the balance, and we fully support their victory in the war on terrorism. they're not asking for boots on the ground. they're even willing to pay for the weapons that they wanted from us. but to be abandoned by the president of the united states, it is an abandonment of the cause of liberty and freedom. the united states president

should be, the united states should be the leader of the prix world. he's abandon -- the free world. he's abandoned that cause, and the world now knows it, and our enemies know it and they're all emboldened. and i'll tell you one other thing, if you look at the 10 is million plus joe biden unout vetted illegal immigrants many coming from iran and is syria and egypt and afghanistan and china and russia, tens and tens of thousands, well, i gotta tell ya, pete, i'm not confident that 9/11 2.0 or worse is coming. i pray to god i'm wrong with. i don't think i'm wrong, pete. pete: do you think, sean, we're hearing -- i don't think you're wrong either -- this letter of the democrats calling out his policy, does this only intensify leading up to the convention? are we looking at a 1968 convention? how bad does this get? >> look, this all started when the democratic presidential primary took place in michigan. and joe biden lost 18.9% of the

democratic party vote in the primary to people that were uncommitted. and he host them to a lot of the rad -- he lost them to a lot of the radicals that live in michigan. it scared the hell out of him, it scared the hell out of democrats. then they lost 50,000 votes in wisconsin, another 40,000 in pennsylvania. three states that could very likely determine the outcome of the 2024 election in 177 days. so i think joe has put his own personal political ambition above what america needs to stand for, the cause of liberty and the cause of freedom. and the cause of human rights and stand against radical islamic terrorists that killed 1200 israelis on october 7th, took hundreds hostage including americans that joe biden hasn't lifted a finger to get out of there. pete: yeah. our allies know that we're with absent, and you are our enemies know to take advantage, no doubt. speaking of enemies and allies,

that brings us to a new fox nation show you've got, sean, called outlaws and lawmen with sean hannity. here's a quick promo quip. >> dolan and his allies soon force a showdown with billy the kid and the regulators. the posse of corrupt hired guns corner the regulators inside a house in the town of lincoln. a battle rages for five days. pete: sean, this must have been fun to put together. >> you know, i love john wayne movies, i love westerns, i love yellowstone, i love clint eastwood, i love all of this stuff. i said, yes, i'm going to push through my comfort zone. i am so glad that i did because -- and this was the a collaborative effort. the team was amazing. it was like a movie shoot. we shot this, pete, on the set of where tombstone, one of my favorite, you know, movies of all time, where that was shot. so that was a really cool

experience for me. and in the process, i thought i knew a lot about pat garrett and billy the kid and butch cassidy9 and the sundance kid. i thought i knew a lot. in the process i learned a lot, but here's what i really learned. all of those americans, the pioneers, the individualists that we admire on, you know, shows like life below zero or deadliest catch, i mean, really tough, rugged people, those people that made the perilous journey out west not -- leaving everything they knew behind in hope of a better life and those people that wanted to take it all from them, the outlaws and then these incredible lawmen that rise to the occasion and their stories are phenomenal. it's a four-part series. i'm so proud. it debuted with really high numbers on fox nation, number one on wednesday. i hope people this weekend can watch it. i loved doing it. i learned a lot. and the team that i work with

were or phenomenal. they put together a really, really good series that i'm very proud to be a small part of it, and i really enjoyed doing it. pete: i find that every time, sean. anytime you undertake one of these series on fox nation, i end up learning right along with sean hannity. catch outlaws and lawmen on fox nation, it's available right now. let's keep it at number 2001. sean hannity, thanks for joining us on saturday morning. >> anytime. watch the show every weekend. pete: likewise. we watch you every night. take care. and the northern lights getting further south, while you might -- might able to see them as far south as alabama or even florida this weekend. thinking about dirt. at three in the morning. any time of the day. what people don't know is that not all dirt is the same. you need dirt with the right kind of nutrients. look at this new organic soil from miracle-gro.

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pink, orange, green could be seen from maine all the way to florida the result of a geomagnetic storm the. the. pete: the downside is solar flares could impact your gps systems and power grids. overnight elon musk's scarlink reported -- starlink reportedly having degraded service. rachel: let's turn now to rick reichmuth, i asked you if that might have been why i didn't get a good night's sleep, and you said that could have been why. rick: there have been some studies that say it impacts our circadian rhythm. that energy is coming at us, and maybe it could have some impact for a bad night's sleep. i want to just explain how all of this happens. the sun is constantly, you know, emitting, obviously, the energy for it. but sometimes you get these solar flares that get active, and normally the magnet ific field around the u.s., around the globe protects us. but when you get these solar storms, and it's been really active for about the last 10

days, about 50% of all of the solar flares that have happened so far this year have happened within the last 10 years. -- 10days. you fete that extra supercharged particle, the magnetic field protects the earth, but it does penetrate right around the pole, and that's why we get the aurora bore y'all lis, and when you get an event like this, it's it is just that much more spectacular. you get e these electrons colliding with our atmosphere, and when you get the red and green, that that's from the oxygen molecules or that are interacting with those electrons, and the blues and purples are the nitrogen. this has been an incredible event, at least the strongest since 2003, so just over 20 years, but possibly going back over about 170 years. so this very significant event for us, the good side bringing an amazing aurora rah for us. last time we saw that down in places like southwest f. tonight

another good night, so if you want to get out away from the city lights, go outside if you don't have clouds, and you might be able to see the northern lights. pete: solar storm. rick, very well -- more on the aurora than i ever thought i'd get. nicely done. rachel: well done. rick: you bet. pete: let's turn to a few additional headlines starting with this, a jewelry e store owner in omaha, 234e, came face to face with an attempted thief. the suspect broke into the shop, but the other than was ready. he joined us to discuss the -- the owner was ready. >> you never expect this sort of thing to happen. there was no active thought, it was instingtive response. i hopped up from my chair, grabbed the firearm and headed out to the sales floor. the plan of attack was shock and yaw, essentially. the -- awe, essentially. the outcome we got was ideal. nobody got hurt. pete: he's an air force vet is. no surprise, he stepped up. although police are still searching for the suspect. get this one, today

minnesota's new state flag is flying at the capitol in st. paul to celebrate statehood. this comes after some republicans tried and and failed to stop the shift. yes, that's the flag. the redesign scraps native american imagery that was on the old flag, and the new flag features the north star on a navy if blue background with a light, a patch of light blue on the right side. do you know what it looks a lot like on the right? the somalia flag. rachel: oh, does it really? if. pete: oh, yeah. which is where we're going anyway with. rachel: it's super generic. pete: indigenous people, gone. somalia -- will: usfl flags right there. generic group forms -- rachel: yeah. pete: yeah. it's just ridiculous. we've erased, we've absolutely erased -- this is what minnesota gets. they get what they deserve. you keep voting for marxists,

keep letting people in no matter what, you get that flag. rachel: were the native americans mad? pete: i don't know. good question. will: let's keep going. pete: an unexpected plus one slithered onto the guest list at a couple's wedding. [inaudible conversations] >> erica, you're [bleep] pete: erica's got guts. the brave guest was celebrating her sister's wedding when the cold-blooded wedding crasher made its way finish a staff member tried and failed before the women in cowboy boots literally took matters into her open hands and we all know i would not have gone that far because i'm mortified -- rachel: look, i'm carrying it too. i would have done that to save my sister's wedding -- will: the audience did not like you snake handling in his face. rachel: was that the feedback from that? pete: i think we all fear

snakes, as we should -- rachel: you shouldn't be taunting him. -- will: you sean be taunting him, rachel. pete: i held it. there we go. did i hold it in i can't believe that. yeah, i want nothing to do with it. that's how it ended -- will: well, this is an awkward transition. from snakes to mothers. americans are celebrating mother's day tomorrow. this is what is expected, $254 on mom on average per person. pete: really? will: if you buy for your kids, does that mean you've bot to take your kid and do 250 per kid? pete: i think that's aggregate. will: it says per person. pete: okay. that seems high. i'm not doing enough for mom then. rachel: especially in the biden economic world -- pete: you know what's interesting, they've also broken down the spending, the national retail federation, on mother's

day versus father's day -- will: look at that. pete: it really looks like dad gets the shaft. will: i was playing with my phone a moment ago to figure out programming, 70%. pete: you know what i feel like the difference is? the flower difference. i think flowers at $50, 60, that's the difference between -- will: put it back up. rachel: that's actually a good point. will: explain in this to me. how come when the economy gets tough, dads bear the brunt? the margins started to narrow e, in 20221 it goes up to 80. pete: you really dove into these numbers. will: then we take a crash, boom, and we is haven't recovered back from 70% president. budgets are tight. take it out on dad. rachel: do you know what i asked for for mother's day this year? i asked for sean and the kids to get me a family pickleball lesson, and we're going to do that today. that sounds fun, right? if. pete: are you going somewhere, or is someone coming to you? the.

rachel: i'm going to go to a pickle ball court, and we're going to learn all together. will: tell us how you're celebrating, friends@foxnews.com. pete: tomorrow is mother's day, in case you forgot -- will: i didn't, by the way. on it. pete: you're on it? will: yeah. i know, i'm pretty proud. [laughter] i feel really good, to be honest. i'm going to wake up tomorrow morning prepared. normally it's, like -- pete: help me for a second, jen asked for one thing, a signed copy of my book. will: she did. [laughter] rachel: it's a good bookment this is good for father's day. pete: it is, and mother's. trump's judge till not imposing a gag order on michael cohen. will: brett tolman on the double standard, next. (tony hawk) skating for over 45 years has taken a toll on my body.

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will: transfer's new york trial set to re-- trump's new york trial expected to resume monday as the district attorney's office reveals they could rest their case by the end of next week. it comes after testimony from several witnesses like stormy daniels intentioned after -- and tension over the gag order. former federal prosecutor brett tolman joins us now. great to have you. trump's team attempted the move for a mistrial after stormy daniels' testimony which, let's be honest, was incredibly prejudicial standard the jury. that was denied, the mistrial. i'm curious what you think's been accomplished by the

prosecution. like, is there a -- there is a motion if for dismissal after the prosecution puts their case on, right? you can do that. i'm just sure it would never be granted. >> yeah, will, that's exactly e right. they -- look, they filed the mistrial motion, and i don't blame them for it. what they should have been doing is actually filing a motion to thank stormy daniels. there is no testimony more damaging to their opening theory, their opening theory was a conspiracy by trump and those around him to affect, you know, improperly affect the election. well, she clearly stated even in her own testimony on direct examination and then on cross-examination that or her interest was to exact money out of the president. that in and of itself underlies this theory that there was some pierce on the other side. instead -- conspiracy on the other side. instead it shows a reaction and an attempt to get money out of the president, so i would have been thanking that witness for sort of blowing up the

prosecution's initial theory. and then if you look at what their going -- they're going to present, it's shocking to me that they're even going as long as they are. it's more a show trial than it is one to try to pull in facts that are very important for the case in front of the jury. will: the reason i bring up motion to dismiss at the end of the prosecution's case, well, i don't know, have they even met their burden that should even go to a jury, right? have they met the with burden that this is a question -- and even after michael cohen goes. it just seems like it doesn't, it seems like a circus. michael cohen's only going to camp up the circus nature of this, and none of it leads rationally to any type of conviction. >> yeah. the motion if is called a directed verdict, is and i would estimate, will, 95% of judges out there right now, 95%, would not let this go to the jury. will: yeah. directed verdict, wow, a term i've forgotten from law school. yeah, they wouldn't let it go to

the jury because the prosecution hasn't even met their minimum burden. will michael cohen, in your mind, help them meet that burden? >> you know, michael cohen's testimony, certainly he is going to be willing to say whatever is needed to be said. he's proven that. and so the prosecution is going to be challenged really to get out enough. keep in mind though what we're dealing with is not necessarily what michael cohen knows or is going to say. you still have fifth and sixth amendment rights as a defendant in that courtroom to know what you have been charged with and to have a fair trial against you. if michael cohen goes in and and he can't articulate what the underlying crime is or can't produce if evidence of what the underlying crime is, or they'll still fail, and a judge would direct this verdict and say, hey, i'm not letting this go to the jury because, one, the facts don't seem to be sufficient. of but you don't clearly identify what the underlying crime is that gets this from a misdemeanor to a felony.

will: and real quick, brett, of course, there's no expectation this judge would find himself within the 95% you estimate would put this to a directed verdict. >> well, yeah. you look at the gag order, the gag order itself is an indicator of who this judge is. really. will: right. >> when a gag order is needed, it's needed to protect the fairness of the trial for the defendant. in this instance, cohen -- wearing a shirt that shows the president behind bars -- should have been the subject of a gag order before the president was. will: bretting tolman, really good stuff. we'll be watching this week, thank you. >> thank you. will: the mclemore boys are cooking up some of our favorites from their new cookbook. next. i told myself i was ok with my moderate to severe rheumatoid arthritis symptoms. with my psoriatic arthritis symptoms. but just ok isn't ok. and i was done settling.

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>> so we had to deliver. we not only brought you quantity, we decided to bring you the best quality from 44 farms. i'm telling you, you guys are going to love -- >> so 44 farms out of cameron, texas. guys, we've got 8 different cuts of beef. they supply beef all over the u.s. they're one of the largest registered black angus beef ranches in america. and they ship, 44 farms -- 44 steakses.com, ship it direct to you with. rachel: i know this company and the people who run it, good people, great meat. >> good blue collar -- [inaudible conversations] pure, wholesome if beef. >> are y'all ready? you ready? if. will: yeah. >> so, pete, this is yours. [laughter] if that is the ultimate, the ultimate burger, the ultimate smoked breakfast burger. rachel -- [laughter] rachel: here, take a picture. pete: rachel, you're up next.

>> rachel -- rachel: oh! mini cheeseburger sliders. all these recipes are in our cookbook. rick, we didn't bring you a slaw dog, we decided to bring you a brisket palace finish. rick: nice. pete: nice. >> all this in gather and grill. >> will, you ready? will: i'm realize. [laughter] if -- >> so, will -- [cheers and applause] >> hold on, hold on, hold on. [laughter] >> the brisket. rick: nice. >> oh, this there the we go. >> it's our three-step brisket out of gather and grill. they ship to your front door, 44 steaks -- rick: that's been softened up in his pocket. >> hey, we gotta say this too, rachel, happy mother's day. rachel: thank you. >> tonya, cynthia, shirley --

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